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Re: bodog update

Postby ihatepostgreSQL » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:55 pm

The only options we have as PT members are to (a) continue using PT on the very limited usa sites, essentially telling them that you're okay with PT decision, or to (b) withdraw your funds and make it clear to them that their business decisions in this matter caused you to leave PT.


wait can i still get a refund?


choice (c) get stiffed by PT.


still waiting...

fixed yet?
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Re: bodog update

Postby ihatepostgreSQL » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:02 pm

Josh wrote:It's technically possible for us to develop an AI to allow PokerTracker to play poker for you, but just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's something we're going to do.

We are committed to respecting the sites we support. Not just the word of their TOS, but the spirit as well.




i would love for you to make a bot for me and play for me but that would go against the TOS of Bodog.

I am not asking you to violate the TOS of Bodog and make me a AI bot and play for me.


I am asking you to provide me what you said you would provide me if i bought PT.


All i am asking is for you to do your job.
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Re: bodog update

Postby APerfect10 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:43 pm

ihatepostgreSQL wrote:
Josh wrote:It's technically possible for us to develop an AI to allow PokerTracker to play poker for you, but just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's something we're going to do.

We are committed to respecting the sites we support. Not just the word of their TOS, but the spirit as well.




i would love for you to make a bot for me and play for me but that would go against the TOS of Bodog.

I am not asking you to violate the TOS of Bodog and make me a AI bot and play for me.


I am asking you to provide me what you said you would provide me if i bought PT.


All i am asking is for you to do your job.


We want to support Bodog but due to Bodog's changes we cannot support them. You are acting as if they simply updated their software and we are simply refusing to do the work -- which is certainly not the case. Unfortunately, the sad truth is that Bodog put out a new client which was specifically designed to prevent all third party software from working on their site. It is not very realistic for you to expect us to be able to continue to support them after changes such as this.

You should be directing your frustration towards Bodog -- they made the choice and ultimately forced our hand. The only way that we will be able to support Bodog again, in the future, is if they change their stance and deanonymize their tables or at least give YOU the choice whether you want to play on anonymous tables or not. Therefore, your best course of action, if you want to use PokerTracker on their site, is to contact them about your displeasure and hope that they change their position.

Best regards,

Derek
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Re: bodog update

Postby ihatepostgreSQL » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:22 am

APerfect10 wrote:

We want to support Bodog but due to Bodog's changes we cannot support them. You are acting as if they simply updated their software and we are simply refusing to do the work -- which is certainly not the case. Unfortunately, the sad truth is that Bodog put out a new client which was specifically designed to prevent all third party software from working on their site. It is not very realistic for you to expect us to be able to continue to support them after changes such as this.




all i am asking is to be able to track my own hands.

i understand bodog made a BIG CHANGE but i should be able to keep track of my own hands.

there is no TOS violation by using PT to track my own hands.
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Re: bodog update

Postby StevenM » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:55 am

ihatepostgreSQL wrote:
all i am asking is to be able to track my own hands.


If you can find the hand histories stored on your local computer for PokerTracker to read, then please get back to us. As far as everyone can tell, the hand histories you are looking for do not exist on your hard drive. We cannot import hands from thin air - we are not magicians. If you disagree with Bodog's decisions then feel free to ask Bodog to be able to track your own hands, they are they ones who took this right away from you - not us.

PS: Bodog is aware of their TOS error, I expect that to be addressed very soon - Bodog intends to legally stop any software company from gaining access to their player data. The TOS loophole will most likely be closed once Morris Mohawk replaces Bodog in the USA at the end of the month - the Bodog brand is leaving the USA at the end of the year.
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Re: bodog update

Postby dirtyturtler2100 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:58 pm

As a US player, it's been tough since black Friday, but I won't place my blame/frustration with you guys. Yeah, it's hard, if not impossible to multi on bodog anymore, but the action is sweeeet. Play one table. Pay attention. Just like in the old days. These fish are still giving away their money if you've got any shread of ability. I know you'll do whatever you can whenever you can. I've been a loyal PT2/PT3 user for over 5 years and the support has always been top notch. I truly doubt that you've picked this instance to just say "f**k it".
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Re: bodog update

Postby tdoomx » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:12 am

dirtyturtler2100 wrote:As a US player, it's been tough since black Friday, but I won't place my blame/frustration with you guys. Yeah, it's hard, if not impossible to multi on bodog anymore, but the action is sweeeet. Play one table. Pay attention. Just like in the old days. These fish are still giving away their money if you've got any shread of ability. I know you'll do whatever you can whenever you can. I've been a loyal PT2/PT3 user for over 5 years and the support has always been top notch. I truly doubt that you've picked this instance to just say "f**k it".


+1, I've also used PT2/PT3 quite long time and I accept the decision to drop bodog support. Nothing will last forever anyways, so just accept it and move on. PT is still an excellent application and I can use it in many other rooms, so no biggie.
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Re: bodog update

Postby kraada » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:40 am

Thanks guys, your kind words are appreciated.
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Re: bodog update

Postby wheelgunner » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:19 pm

You main site says you still support Bodog, time to change it please. Thanks
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Re: bodog update

Postby StevenM » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:11 am

wheelgunner wrote:You main site says you still support Bodog, time to change it please. Thanks


We still support manual import of hands from the bodog 3.x client, not the 4.x client. Bodog support for 3.x will even be included in PokerTracker 4 along with other now defunct clients for legacy hand importing. We even continue to support FullTilt - although like Bodog you will no longer be able to auto-import for obvious reasons.
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