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RFI

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:02 pm
by js2002
Hi WhiteRider,

do you know how the flag open_raise (and opp) is defined for the BigBlind? If the SB completes is it a opp to openraise or not because the complete is definited as limp?

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:07 am
by WhiteRider
The BB can never open-raise because if they get chance to act then someone else must have already entered the pot.
(They could make the first raise, but it wouldn't be an open-raise).

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:21 am
by js2002
http://rapidshare.com/files/153516925/Desktop.rar.html

I put these into repository.
Since you mentioned the difference between open and first I have to check em, but I think they are alright.
If you are interested you can check em as well.

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:24 am
by js2002
Tought again,

so I just have to change the BB Stat and remove the "open" then it will be correct.

Is there a flag for firstraise opp ?

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:48 am
by WhiteRider
No, there is no flag for first raise opp.

I built a column to count limp opportunities (which is the same thing - if you can limp, you can make the first raise):

cnt_p_limp_opp = sum( if[ (NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_face_raise) OR (holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_limp) OR (holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise)) AND NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_blind_b), 1 , 0 ] )

Note: this is in the 'holdem cash player statistics' section, and includes a check for being in the BB where you can't limp, so actually to get a first raise opp you would need to remove the check for being in the BB.

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:00 am
by js2002
Hi,

thx a lot I understand, but why

"OR (holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_limp) OR (holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise)"

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:04 am
by js2002
Damn error again:

The question was:

Why do you check "did player limp?" in a counter for the opportunities?

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:48 am
by js2002
Tested and MY RFI stats say 20% in BB so they work but I dont now why because after your definition they "are not allowed" to show anything else then 0%.

Ur stat is also not usable because a chance to limp is != a chance to raise first

If theres 1 limper before me I have the chance to limp but NOT the chance to RFI.

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:36 am
by WhiteRider
You said you wanted to build a "first raise" stat, not a "raise first in" stat!
They are different. "Raise first in" means no-one has acted before you, "first raise" means no-one has raised before you.

You need the additional checks in the 'limp opportunity' column, because you can face a raise AFTER you limp (or raise) - so just checking for "NOT (face a raise)" misses some cases. You might have an opportunity to limp and still face a raise.

Re: RFI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:41 am
by js2002
WhiteRider wrote:You said you wanted to build a "first raise" stat, not a "raise first in" stat!
They are different. "Raise first in" means no-one has acted before you, "first raise" means no-one has raised before you.

Ah, we misunderstood here. I mean(t) RFI (no action before me)

You need the additional checks in the 'limp opportunity' column, because you can face a raise AFTER you limp (or raise) - so just checking for "NOT (face a raise)" misses some cases. You might have an opportunity to limp and still face a raise.

ok tu!
Do u get all opp with this stat?