Offer different versions during installation

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Offer different versions during installation

Postby prometheus » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:05 pm

When I installed PT4 for the first time and then exploring its features, it quickly became clear that it is designed for NL Holdem primarely. All the reports and HUDs are full of "All-in Equity Adjusted", "Fold to PF 3bet", "Squeeze", "Limp & Call", etc. I think you get what I mean.
I play FL Holdem, and after the dust settled I'm going though all these reports and the default HUD and throwing all this NL stuff out and customizing it for my needs. I understand that there isn't a perfect user experience out of the box possible, but somebody who plays FL has to put much more effort into it than a NL/PLO player. There is little clue of accomodation to the FL player; you even want to/have got rid of the "Big Bet" and its notation "BB" and redefined it as "Big Blind". (I know you can just multiply bb by 2 and get BB.) Why not keep the distinction between "bb" as "Big binds" and "BB" as Big Bets"? It's well established already and a quasi-standard on forum and in books. You have said there was a panel of advisors consisting of professional poker players during the developement of PT4; was there also a FL player? There is still FL Holdem on the internet...

So here comes my proposal: Let the user choose during installation what his main game is and offer tailored versions of reports and HUDs based on his choice. So the FL guy would get his beloved BB (Big Bet) but not all this (for him useless) NL stuff, the NL/PLO guy all the 3bet, 4bet, shove, etc. stats he needs. There also should be an option to do the default install, like it is today.
I think this approach would also be very suitable for beginners. What do you think?
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Re: Offer different versions during installation

Postby random » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:23 am

Doesnt even have to be a new version. Something like a profile that you could choose when you want to would be much better. There is already a backup/restore system that saves alot (maybe all?) of the things that can be set up in PT4, I cant imagine it would be hard to do profiles that we could save/share. Then you could make all kind of setups that would be ready to be used with 1 click. NL, FL, PLO.. Right now its just 1 big bag with everything thrown in.
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Re: Offer different versions during installation

Postby prometheus » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:40 am

random wrote:Doesnt even have to be a new version. Something like a profile that you could choose when you want to would be much better. There is already a backup/restore system that saves alot (maybe all?) of the things that can be set up in PT4, I cant imagine it would be hard to do profiles that we could save/share. Then you could make all kind of setups that would be ready to be used with 1 click. NL, FL, PLO.. Right now its just 1 big bag with everything thrown in.

Sorry if I didn't come across clear. I didn't have in mind totally disjunct versions of PT4 where you have only the FL stuff or PLO or NL. I essentially meant something like you said, that would be different profiles for different games. You could still add all the NL stuff to your FL HUD or reports if you'd like so.
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Re: Offer different versions during installation

Postby WhiteRider » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:01 am

I will pass on your suggestion, but I'm not sure the distinction is relevant to all that many stats.
I understand about "all-in EV" stats, but limp/call and squeeze stats are still relevant to fixed limit play, surely? (I'm far from an expert poker player, so I'm happy to be corrected!)

FWIW the "BB" stats in PT4 display the relevant value for NL/PL or fixed limit play. For fixed the values are in "big bets" - the descriptions/tooltips do not indicate this and I will discuss this with the development team, but the numbers are right for each bet type.

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